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💳 Withdrawing Money From PayPal for Non-US Accounts

Last updated: December 01, 2021248 Comments

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As discussed in previous posts, once you’re using PayPal to sell your stuff online, you will also want to eventually withdraw the money you make into your bank account so that you can actually use it. Here’s where things get a bit nasty, unfortunately.

If you have a US bank account and a US PayPal account, you can stop reading right here. You’re in luck. All you have to do is attach your bank account to your PayPal account and withdraw USD from your PayPal account to your bank account. There are no currency conversions to worry about, and the transfer itself is free from PayPal’s side.

If you are the owner of a non-US PayPal account and you don’t have a US bank account, things are not so pretty.

You are given two options (depending on your home country, it might even be just one option):

  1. Withdraw to a debit or credit card
  2. Withdraw to your local bank account.

By the way, did you know that you can now buy Bitcoin and cryptos with your PayPal account on Coinbase and eToro? Read my guide to buying crypto with PayPal to find out how.

If you sell online you probably use USD as the main currency on your store and hence your PayPal balance will be in USD. What happens is that since your local credit card or bank account are not in USD, an automatic currency conversion takes place on PayPal’s end as the money is on the way out. The conversion rates are bad, to put it mildly. Hence you’re going to lose a lot of money on that conversion.

Withdrawing your funds from PayPal to a debit or credit card can be annoying if you have significant funds. The reason is that you can only withdraw up to $2,500 at one go, and every time you make a withdrawal you are charged $2,50.

So let’s say you need to withdraw $50,000. You will need to go through the withdrawal process 20 times for a total cost of $60. This sounds ridiculous; a time-wasting activity and also a money-grab by PayPal. It is, there’s no other way of looking at it.

The other way of withdrawing is to send the funds directly to your bank account. There are no limits when compared to withdrawing to a card. Sounds like we solved our problem right?

Well, not so fast.

If your bank account is in a different currency than the funds you have stored on PayPal, be prepared to lose a significant amount of money due to PayPal’s horrible exchange rates. PayPal does not let you send, say, USD directly to a EUR-denominated account. This is a limitation on their end, and I suspect an intentional one to fleece their users. There are no such limitations when using other payment gateways such as 2Checkout.

[Read more…]

  1. How to Time PayPal Withdrawals to Get the Best Currency Exchange Rate
  2. 🧐 Are You Losing out from PayPal’s Exchange Rates?
  3. 🤔 Which PayPal Account is Best for You?
  4. 💸 Changing Your PayPal Withdrawal Currency
  5. Accepting Credit Card Payments via Braintree in Europe
  6. Braintree vs PayPal Fees, Which One is Cheaper?
  7. 💸 Understanding PayPal Cross Border Fees
  8. PayPal Now Allows Withdrawing Money to Bank Accounts in Malta
  9. 💳 Withdrawing Money From PayPal for Non-US Accounts
  10. Which PayPal E-Commerce Checkout Service Should You Use?
  11. 🤔 Should You Open Separate PayPal Accounts for Each of Your E-Commerce Stores?
  12. 🆚 PayPal VS Wise Borderless
  13. 💳 Linking Virtual Bank Accounts and Cards to PayPal (Revolut, Wise etc)
  14. How to Check the Instant Payment Notification (IPN) History in PayPal
  15. PayPal Stiffs Sellers With Changes in Refund Policy
  16. How to Change Ownership of a PayPal Account
  17. How to Buy Bitcoin and Crypto With PayPal

Filed under: Money, Tips & Tricks

How to Save Money on Currency Conversions and Overseas Transfers in 2022

Last updated: January 19, 202217 Comments

There are alternatives to using high street banks for converting and sending money abroad.

High street banks are being threatened by leaner fintech companies with better technology that provide a better service at a lower cost. That’s a statement that most of us have heard from one source or another over the past few years.

The two most well-known services are Wise and Currencyfair. Of the two, Wise is my favorite.

Wise

transferwise currency conversion

Sending money abroad is deceptively expensive, thanks to the hidden fees we’ve all been forced to pay. Now Wise lets expats, foreign students and businesses transfer money wherever it’s needed, at the lowest possible cost. No hidden fees, no headache.

Sign up to Wise

Let’s see how that translates into a real-life example.

Converting $100,000 to Euros

Let’s say we need to convert $100,000 into euros. We’ll pitch a typical high street bank against two well-known currency conversion services: Currencyfair and Wise.

I picked two Maltese banks, HSBC and BOV. Here are their advertised rates:

BOV exchange rates

HSBC exchange rates

Currencyfair

Wise

Having checked all the rates, let’s have a look at the final results.

Here’s what each Maltese bank will give us in return for our USD:

  • BOV: €87,734
  • HSBC: €87,039

Amazingly, between the two leading banks in Malta, we see a difference of €700 for the same simple service. Pretty bewildering if you ask me. I believe that both banks also charge a fee, although I was unable to locate the pricing for currency conversions on their website.

Let’s move on to the online currency conversion giants:

  • Currencyfair: €88,837
  • Wise: €88,925

Note that Currencyfair improves on the BOV’s rate by €1,100, and Wise by €1,200. You must also keep in mind that I’ve seen banks that provide much worse conversion rates and extra fees for conversion. Even so, the differences between the fintechs and the Maltese banks are pretty impressive, and I, therefore, see it as a no-brainer to go for either Wise or Currencyfair for currency conversions.

Convert currency with Wise

And now let’s look at some more exotic options that can give you even better results with some extra work on your end.

Bonus 1: Using Crypto for Conversions

You could use a crypto exchange like Kraken or Binance and do your currency conversion via Bitcoin or a stablecoin. You can read more about that in my dedicated post on the subject.

Bonus 2: A Clever Hack using the Mintos platform

mintos

Another clever move would be to skip all the banks and currency conversion services and use Mintos for my currency conversion needs. Mintos is currently the best European P2P lending platform and I’ve been obtaining upwards of 10% returns per year on my investments there.

You might be wondering what all this has to do with our currency conversion case study.

The thing is, Mintos launched a foreign exchange service on their own platform. You can, therefore, deposit those $100,000 and convert them to euros there. At the time of writing, the rate employed by Mintos for USD to EUR conversions was 0.892818. They also charge a 0.7% fee.

  • Mintos: €88,581

That’s by far better than the banks’ rates, and slightly worse than TransferWise and Currencyfair. However, once your money is on Mintos, why not invest it there? If you don’t want to park your money there as an investment for a long time, just let your money work for you for just one month, then use the secondary market to sell your loans. The secondary market on Mintos is highly liquid, just as an example I know an investor who sold $1m on the Mintos secondary market in just one day recently.

Keeping an average return rate of 10%, which is easily achieved at the moment on Mintos, after parking our newly converted USD to EUR on the platform for a month, we would be able to withdraw the following:

  • Converted currency €88,581 + Returns of 1 month circa €885 = €89,466

That’s the best result of this currency conversion experiment. You could also keep some money invested if you like Mintos and withdraw the rest, or keep the whole amount invested and gain around €8-10,000 per year at the current interest rates.

Bonus 3: Negotiate a Better Rate with Your Bank

If you are processing a significant volume of currency conversions every year (I’d say $50,000 and above) it would make sense to reach out to your bank and ask if they are open to negotiating a better rate for you. This is a win-win situation and most banks will be happy to give you a favorable rate.

As an example, I was able to negotiate a special rate with my bank to convert from USD to EUR.

By way of example, for today they quoted a Preferential Rate of 1.0998 when the Official Buying Rate was 1.1138 (Reference or Average Rate was 1.0946).

Just to give you an example of the effect of this concession, let’s take an example transfer of US$ 66,000. The conversion of this amount would work out as follows:

Interbank rateUS$ 66,000 @ the average rate of 1.0946
= Eur 60,296
Conversion at the
Quoted Buying Rate
US$ 66,000 @ the buying rate of 1.1138
= Eur 59,256
Conversion at the
Preferential Rate
US$ 66,000 @ the preferential rate of 1.0998
= 60,011

This means that I gain the difference between Eur 59,256 and Eur 60,011 or Eur 1,040 and Eur 285 = Eur 755.

How do you manage your currency exchanges?

Filed under: Money, Tips & Tricks

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