IMPORTANT – This platform is now pretty much dead, do not invest any money in it.
I will leave the original review below, but I am no longer investing money in Viventor myself, and have also lost money like most other investors due to bad loans on this platform.
Unfortunately, COVID was too big of a hit for Viventor (which had up till that point been improving quite nicely), and an acquisition in 2021 sealed the deal for this platform. The original team seems to all have exited, and it is not clear who is running the show nowadays (if anyone is).
If you’re looking for a Viventor alternative, Mintos remains my number one choice, but do take a look at my list of best European P2P lending platforms for more options.
Viventor is a Latvian P2P lending platform that is similar to Mintos, which I’ve already reviewed in another article.
Viventor was founded at a later stage than Mintos and is currently smaller, but that doesn’t mean it’s worse. Straight off the bat, I can tell you that I’ve been using Viventor successfully and the main reason I use other platforms apart from Mintos (which is the biggest one) is to diversify and protect against platform risk.
The second reason for using Viventor is that they don’t only provide consumer loans, but they also offer invoice financing and business loans.
Who invests on Viventor?
I was able to get in touch with Viventor’s team and they have told me that Germany, Portugal and Spain are the countries where most Viventor investors come from, in fact, together, they comprise almost 50% of the total number of investors. The reason is that in the first 2 years, Viventor was developed and operated from the Portuguese and Spanish regions. Currently, half the Viventor staff is based in Spain.
With regards to Germany, it comes as no surprise that all Baltic based P2P companies have a proportionally bigger investor base from that country. No doubt it’s one of the biggest markets in Europe. An additional reason for that is that their (German) local P2P platforms offer rates on a single-digit basis ~7% and less, therefore, Viventor’s average rate for investors which is more than 13% is pretty attractive from their point of view.
What level of returns can you get with Viventor?
Let’s talk about some statistics.
As of June 2020, the cumulative investments on this platform are closing in on €130m which is no small sum. There are close to 8,000 investors, up from 6,000 a year ago, with the majority of loans being consumer loans.
The average return across all investors hovers around the 13.6% rate which is very good. As I’ve said in other articles on this site, I consider anything above 11% to be a good return when it comes to P2P loans, given the inherent risks in this investment class.
Statistics in June 2019:
Statistics in June 2020:
As you can appreciate in the screenshots above, returns have been higher in 2020 when compared to 2019.
In the same vein as Mintos, Viventor does not charge any fees to investors, and so far has not seen any defaults from loan originators, unlike Mintos which had Eurocent default in 2018.
How does Viventor work?
On this platform, we can find a primary and secondary market.
The secondary market consists of loans that other investors have previously bought and are now being offloaded by those investors in search of liquidity.
There is a buyback guarantee in place which means that loans that have not been paid back on time will be covered by the loan originator once 60 or 90 days have passed, plus you will also get any interest accrued for the period the loans were held.
You will also find loans with a payment guarantee. In this case, the loan originator is guaranteeing the monthly payments on behalf of the borrower.
As is typical on such platforms, Viventor also includes an auto-invest feature, which is quite easy to use.
Platform profitability
As a result of the significant growth of the platform, Viventor’s revenue more than tripled from EUR 0.1 million in 2018 to EUR 0.31 million in 2019. The total loans funded on the platform during the last year were over EUR 53.5 million. Out of these loans, more than 71% were consumer loans, 18% invoice financing, and around 8% business loans.
Viventor are currently investing in further geographical expansion and future development activities.
My Results
I’ve been able to get a XIRR of 15.09% so far, which is pretty good for this asset class. In fact, it is higher than my returns on Mintos. I’ve invested in a wide variety of loans, including:
- Consumer loans
- Invoice financing
- Lines of credit
I’ve also diversified across a few countries: Spain, Netherlands, Russia and North Macedonia. The loans I invested in had an interest range between 12 and 15%.
Support
The main methods of support are e-mail or live chat. The support team is available to help via phone +370 620 62191 every working day from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. (GMT +2).
When I contacted Viventor via chat I was always attended to within a few minutes and had my doubts resolved without any problem in clear communication.
Transparency
With regards to transparency, you can easily check out which loan originators Viventor works with (not all platforms share this information, unfortunately) and they also provide detailed information about each of these loan originators.
The team is led by Andrius Bolšaitis with extensive banking and finance experience who joined Viventor as CEO in July 2019.
The website doesn’t really provide any information on who is behind Viventor, so I would love to see the platform add a solid About page where all the team is shown and their credentials substantiated. When I asked them about this, they promised that they would be adding this information during the year, so I’ll be watching out for that.
Kudos to Viventor for keeping to their promise of providing more information about the team. You can now see the small team behind Viventor shown on the About page, and you also have links to their Linkedin profiles. Most of the team used to work at the SEB bank in Lithuania. I can’t say that they have a ton of experience in the P2P lending space nor the financial space in general, as they are all quite young and don’t have a very varied experience in their CVs, but that is not necessarily a red flag; just something to keep in mind.
Viventor and Coronavirus
While other platforms have run into trouble in 2020, Viventor are staying focused and communicative with their investors, doing weekly webinars and fielding questions from investors without any problems. I asked for a quick update via chat on 13/04/2020 and within minutes they gave me this reply:
I hope you are well and thank you for the question. Few investors are concerned as at the moment our withdrawal processing time is 6 business days and we have pending payments “Funds in Transit”, but we are still going strong and open for communication.
Speaking of pending payments. Every Monday we send to our Loan Originators settlements (principal repayments, interest, late fees, buybacks), what they have to cover from last week. Loan Originators are supposed to fulfill settlements on the same day as settlements are sent. Ideally, it has to be Monday, but it can other days as well. Our Loan Originators are informed about importance of doing settlements on time. Also, international payments could take 2-4 business days as payment terms depend on Loan Originator’s country, currency, bank cash management policy, etc.
Our team is still actively working and monitoring our Loan Originators on daily basis. Additionally this Friday we are hosting our third Webcast, where investors can ask us questions, what we will answer on this Webcast- https://app.sli.do/event/8vwciqew/live/questions
I hope it gives more clarity.
All the best.
Linda
I think that’s a very comprehensive reply and it makes me trust the platform even more in these rocky times.
June 2020 Acquisition
The platform ownership changed in June 2020, as you can read in the press release below:
Lotus 597 B.V., a Dutch Investment company, part of the Gielen Group that also owns Atlantis Financiers NV, has obtained 100 % of the SIA ViVentor shares from the Prestamos Prima Group, which had been invested in by international investor Oleg Boyko in 2016 . The amount of the deal was not disclosed.
This change of ownership takes the ViVentor peer to peer (P2P) loan investment platform, established in 2015, clearly past the status of start-up. For 5 years, they have now proven to be a reliable partner in the still growing FinTech industry. Despite all current turbulences in the financial markets, ViVentor remained stable and even managed to create solid opportunities for sustainable growth.
The new owner is convinced their investment will pay off: “We already knew ViVentor as a trusted Partner within our Group of FinTech companies and therefore decided to purchase ViVentor in order to support this scale-up to the next level. The ViVentor team has proven to us to be great adapters in rapidly changing environments.
We are impressed how the management, led by CEO Andrius Bolšaitis, manages to defend the interest of both the Investors and Loan Originators on the ViVentor platform during these turbulent times. We are also convinced that this will not go unnoticed by the Latvian Regulator and ViVentor will soon be one of the first fully licensed P2P platforms in Europe,” says Sabrina Nathoe, CEO of Lotus 597.
The ViVentor team is proud their dedication to ViVentor has paid off: “At ViVentor, we believe we can move now even faster to implement our ambitious business growth strategy. We aim to become one of the leading platforms in the P2P investment market and one of the most trusted partners to both, our Loan Originators and our Investors,” according to Andrius Bolšaitis, CEO of ViVentor.
Lotus 597 belongs to the Gielen Group from the Netherlands and is responsible for investing in promising FinTech start-ups and scale-ups. Among other ventures, the Gielen Group already owns the successful lending platform Atlantis Financiers, the credit scoring platform Paylex and the recently launched mortgage backed lending platform, Capilex.
Atlantis Financiers is one of the biggest alternative finance and full-service factoring providers on the Dutch and Belgian market. Since its inception in 2013, the company has serviced over 3000 Small and Medium sized Enterprises (SME’s) in the region. From the start, Atlantis is specialized in financing SME’s in difficult or special times, when traditional banks are often not able to support them. The majority of Atlantis customers are active in the service or logistics sectors. They provide loans from EUR 5 thousand to EUR 1 million, always secured by collateral.
Since 2017 they have been present on the ViVentor platform as Loan Originator, offering great returns and guarantees to investors on the platform. About ViVentor P2P Investment Platform ViVentor was established in 2015. During the five years of operation, ViVentor has refinanced over EUR 130 million worth of loans, offering returns to investors of up to 15%.
ViVentor now has more than 7,500 registered investors with 70% of the invested funds coming from Germany, Portugal, Spain, Italy and Benelux countries. As a result of the significant growth of the platform, revenue more than tripled in 2019, allowing ViVentor to increase its capital from EUR 2,800 to EUR 1,530,000. Loans funded on the platform during the last year totaled over EUR 53.5 million. Out of these loans, more than 71% were consumer loans, 18% invoice financing and around 8% business loans.
My thoughts on Viventor
Viventor is a good option if you want to diversify across several P2P lending platforms. The acquisition that happened in June 2020 is good news in my opinion.
In a previous version of this review, I had criticized Viventor’s lack of transparency, but they have since improved in that regard, so I can’t really fault them on that anymore. Perhaps they were reticent to put up this information thinking that investors would judge them on being a small team when compared to other big players in the space such as Mintos, who have tens of employees on their books.
However, Viventor’s track record is solid so far, and the team should be happy with what they’ve achieved and not afraid to show their faces. So I’m happy they took that decision.
The platform makes it very clear which loan originators are supplying the loan book to Viventor, unlike other platforms (such as Fastinvest).
I will continue to invest in Viventor, while keeping in mind the risks that are always present when investing in an asset class like this.
Summary
Avoid investing in this platform – it is now as good as dead after being acquired in 2020.
So is there any lawsuit ongoing for people who got money stuck on this scamish platform?
Given the obvious conflict of interest and the latest email on February 4th suggesting that investors are likely to lose most of their money in Atlantis Financier loans I’m wondering if there is interest in forming a Viventor lenders group. It seems to me that the only way to stop the owners doing exactly what they want could be through court action. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? If one looks at the Atlantis financiers website there is nothing to suggest any financial problems https://www.atlantisfinanciers.nl/
i heard about a class action group on Telegram, but i can’t find it. any lead to follow?
You shall be also careful with scanning the loan originators and the funds in transit. There is “BuyBack and Payment Guarantee”, but these are are not saving your investments. Workaround is, that the money stays in the “in transit” state. You see below, my money lended over Twinero are almost year in this state, and I cannot get the money back.
So be careful.
Funds in transit summary
Loan Originator Funds in transit Longest term in transit (days) Pending FIT interest
Twinero €9’393.08 345 €1’031.51
Please be very very careful investing in Viventor.
Despite the so called ‘buy back guarantee’, the loan originator can extend loans as many times as they want. The result is that you have to wait longer for your money.
I already faced for all of my loans to get extended multiple times. This can go on forever… bye bye money! It is also not very comfortable that Atlantis Financiers is both loan-originator and owner of Viventor. To be quite honest everything was way better before the take-over.
Last detail to be shared is that money in transit from Atlantis (belongs to the Gielen Groep), is already 4 months in transit (how long does a transfer take?).
So, please be warned!
BTW, they prolonged their referral program. So don’t hesitate to share your referral code 🙂
Thank you Jean!
A couple of questions :
– the bank account where you make your deposits is based in which country?
– what is your current interest rate?
– are there short-term loans?
– are there enough loans available so that your auto- invest keeps picking new loans to avoid cash drag?
– are there enough low risk (up to B-) loan originators?
Gracias!
Updating the post with some more details. The best news that should be mentioned is that Viventor has been acquired by a Dutch company in June. Personally, with all that’s happened in the Baltics, I’d rather see Viventor in the hands of Dutch investors.
Great. Thank you for your additional details!